• sharpchick13

    I’ve left virtual flowers for your family members on the lovely memorials you created for them.

    I also added you as a FAG friend…

  • http://claimingkin.com Liv Taylor-Harris

    This is so thoughtful of you Dee; thank you! I will friend you back on FAG as well!

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  • JT

    Liv,

    I thought I should let you know that I know I found a death certificate for a Rachel Wilson who died in 1925. The informant on the certificate is your Estell Chappel. Not sure of the connection, but I believe they were born the same year (1903). She was also buried in the Evergreen Negro Cemetery (no parents are listed for Rachel, however). She died of tuberculosis.,

    James

    • http://claimingkin.com Liv Taylor-Harris

      Hi James, thank you so much for this information! Estella (Smith) Chappel is my mom’s mother who died when she was 2 years old. So my mother knows very little about her mother and the Smith side of the family. So this information about Rachel Wilson, just may prove to be helpful in me locating some type of family link to Estella. You have truly been a Godsend . . . THANK YOU again!

      • JT

        Liv, Rachel still seems to be a mystery. I did find a Rachel Hamil on the 1910 census that could fit the age range. Maybe there were just friends, or maybe cousins. It’s hard when the death certificate doesn’t list parents (or her husband’s name). It does list she was married, so we know Wilson was not her maiden name. Not sure if you have the sibling information on the Smith side. But, I did find several of Richard Smith and Mary White’s children’s death certificates (not sure if this is new): https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bfather_givenname%3ARichard~%20%2Bfather_surname%3ASmith~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3AMary~%20%2Bmother_surname%3AWhite~&collection_id=1983324. I believe the last entry for an Armstrong is not connected. Three of the four certificates list the children being buried in Oats Prairie (Not sure if there’s a specific cemetery). But, their daughter Margaret is listed as being buried in the Golden Gate Cemetery. I could create a memorial for her and link her, but if I were to eventually transfer it to you, you may as well create it (let me know). Interesting to think your mitochondrial DNA would run through Mary (although its unfortunate her mother is not listed on her death certificate). Also, be aware that her birth year should be closer to 1865 (according to her death certificate age).

        • http://claimingkin.com Liv Taylor-Harris

          You are so right about that dreaded “DK” we encounter on death certificates. But I do think you’re right, Rachel could very well be a good friend or cousin. I’ve added her to my list though as someone to track which could lead me to more information about my grandmother — Estella Smith.

          I actually spent time this summer identifying Richard and Mary Smith’s children in census records:
          Mary Smith – 1893 – 1929
          John Smith – 1896 – 1940
          Freddie Smith — 1898 – ????
          Willie Smith – 1901 – 1930
          Estella Smith – 1903 – 1930
          Charles Smith – 1905 – 1973
          Margaret Smith – 1909 – 1954

          I have death certificates for just about everyone listed above except Freddie Smith. I’ve only seen his listed with the family in just one Census decade — 1900 and that’s it. He could have died between 1900 and 1910, but I have not had much luck in proving that at this point. But, I certainly keep searching records for him.

          I appreciate you for offering to create a memorial for her, but you don’t have to worry about that. I plan to use all of the death records I have for everyone to create memorial pages for everyone so that I can link them to my virtual cemetery.

          Mary White’s family was my other project I worked on this summer. Her father is Andrew Jackson “Jack” White, but the spouse that is listed with him in the census is Francis Curtis, which is not Mary’s mother. BUT, the good news is that I hope her siblings’ death certificates will give me clues as to who her mother is. Her siblings are:

          Will White – 1870- 1929
          George White – 1874 – ????

          I believe you’ve create a memorial for Will White at this link – http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=295384&GRid=35402874&

          I’m hope that Will & George’s death certificates give me the name of their mother. I’m hoping and praying that I will know who my gggrandmother is before the end of this year!

          • JT

            The tough part about Rachel is no spouse is listed. Sounds like you are on top of the death certificate situation for the Smith family. Sometimes I don’t know if the information I give out is basic or something new to someone. From my math on what I’ve gathered on the census records, it looks like Freddie would have died between 1900 and 1910. You will notice the 1900 census lists Mary as having seven children with three surviving. But, the 1910 census lists her as having twelve children with seven surviving. Given that five additional children are listed on the 1910 census among their household, the missing child (which bring the number of children who have died from four to five) would have been Freddie. This would mean he would have died between the young age of two to twelve years. The 1900 & 1910 census records are the only two surviving census records to lists the number of surviving children from the mother (the 1890 census also did, but no longer exists). Not sure why this question was added to the census records, but I’m sure glad they did. I have added this to my searches, and include the children numbers when possible for the mothers found on these census records. The only issue with someone who dies between 1900 & 1910 is that there is usually not a death certificate (as they became prevalent in 1910). Sometimes you might get lucky and find a tombstone. Here an example of a situation where tombstones have been found for a child that have died between these years: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26724729 It is rare though (I’ve only seen a couple cases). The William White memorial was actually created by Lynna Kay Shuffield who did the first 2,000 or so memorials of the Evergreen Negro Cemetery. I was able to go further (extending into the 1930-1940 decade). Unfortunately, Will White’s death certificate does not list his mother’s name. I still think obtaining Andrew Jackson White’s wife’s name is a worthy goal. Still no sign of a certificate for George.